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Alvin-Earthworm is killing sprite movies, and some Art for ya.

Posted by BlackDevilX - August 29th, 2008

Yes there, i said it. Go on hate me, i don't care. Why do i say this? There is not a damn sprite movie on NG, that doesn't have some reviewer comparing it to SMBZ, or to Alvin-Earthworms work. Guess what, Alvin-earthworm is not the leading man on sprite movies. So to constantly compare every fucking sprite movie to that of SMBZ is a damn shame. This is one of the reason why sprite movies are declining, not because of him making flash, its because stupid people who constantly cant stay off his dick long enough to compare it with any other sprite movie every made. I'm pretty sure Alvin didn't do this intentionally, but you know what, he didn't help it by not addressing to his fans that NOT EVERY SPRITE MOVIE HAS TO BE LIKE SMBZ IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE GOOD. So seriously, some of you fans of his need to STFU, about how a certain flash would have been better if Alvin-Earthworm, would have joined it. This is why he quit or is on hiatus or whatever, because you fanboys of his are irritating even HIM! Anyways, heres my advice to all the newcomer sprite artists out there, don't use SMBZ as a source of inspiration. DBZ sprite fights are a dying breed that need to be taken out back and shot. Note: I said DBZ sprite fights. Theres a difference between faced paced action and blatant DBZ imitations. Leave DBZ fights to DBZ Characters. Create your own.
Oh, and im pretty sure this is going to blow up in my face, but i don't think his animation skill is that great. Sure he can create super fast paced action, but how hard is it to set the fps to a high amount and NOT tween. Like i said, its been done before.

P.S. If you want to debate me or tell me im wrong, ill be glad to express my points, and debate, but dont be a wuss and hide your opinion in my inbox.

Anyways, i have been practicing my drawing skill (on paper and on flash) and i have to say that my skill is improving bit by bit. I even started to draw out some of my flash animation. So i hope to submit my first animated movie soon.

Check out this picture i drew in flash. Be sure to check out my DeviantArt now and then to see some progress art....maybe XD

Also, lately i have been helping a few flash artist out with some friendly advice, so if theres any work you want advice on, and want to show me for my critique, or just want some tips, i would be happy to help! Sprite animation and normal animation.

Now I'm off to buy Castle Crashers. Feel free to post your opinions, as i read them all and try to respond.

Update: Since many people feel, i have something against alvin-earthworm, Let me clarify, that i dont. He is talented, but need to apply that talent among other things instead of DBZ sprite fights and *shudders* Furries *puke*

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ZekeySpaceyLizard

oh silly me.

I thought all this time it was the fact that every sprite movie for the last few years has derived almost everything about their scripts and plots and 'jokes' from elements of pop culture and that people are FINALLY catching on to the redundancy of it all, was what was killing sprite movies.

silly silly me

BlackDevilX

Oh im sorry, because its not like animation is un-original. Im pretty sure theres only ONE awesome series on newgrounds, and no one has ever copied off of that style. Its not like animation takes from pop-culture either, yes everyone knows animation is the pinnacle of originality...

jakeganz

how can sprite movies be killed? there is already nothing original about the concept of ripping sprites from a sprite sheet and putting it in your flash and moving them around. granted, alvin earthworm is shitty and overrated but sprite movies in general are too

BlackDevilX

Most movies on NG parody something. Guess what, parodies arent original anymore. How many, epic/date/superhero/disaster/meet the Spartans type movies are there now? Sorry, you may feel that sprite are shitty and overrated, but you know what, so is making parodies of things that have been parodied before. Only difference is that sprite movies uses already made pictures.

MetroidEscapes

I agree. A sprite movie doesnt just have to be good cuz of sprites beating the shit out of each other. I mean cmon, when you see quality you see quality. And quality isnt sprites constantly getting smashed into the grounds over and over and strangely seems to live...I rate FFSX6 HIGH quality. Thumbs up again on the awesome movie. Kthxbye

~Metroid Escapes

BlackDevilX

Thank you very much. And i fully agree. You dont need to have violence, in order to make a movie good! I like comedies! if you can make people laugh, then i believe that you have talent, even if you cant animate very well. People need to look past the sprite and see the quality.

YK-Blaze

"DBZ sprite fights are a dying breed that need to be taken out back and shot. Note: I said DBZ sprite fights. Theres a difference between faced paced action and blatant DBZ imitations. Leave DBZ fights to DBZ. Create your own."
you might have not noticed but "fast paced action" is what you use and so do alvin.
you also make big things pop from sonics hands that shoots real strong, if what you wrote was true that means you suck to.

BlackDevilX

"Theres a difference between faced paced action and blatant DBZ imitations. Leave DBZ fights to DBZ. Create your own."

Read please before you comment. I said theres a difference. Im more of a story guy. Also, i dont make things "pop" from Sonics hands. That shock wave is a move set from Sonic Battle. I just changed it. As for the super sonic blast at the end of the GB in X6, ask anyone i worked with, and they'll tell you i regretted it.

Also i wont lie, as i was a proprietor of DBZ action, but i grew out of that. Just like I'm growing out of sprite animations. I used face passed, but no where near as fast as DBZ. Besides do you forget that Sonic, is all about speed? You cant judge me for something ive done in the passed when im trying to change for the future. Im not saying its not a bad style, im saying that it hsouldnt be the ONLY style

I-smel

Sprte movies are declining because they're bloody stupid.

BlackDevilX

Why? I cant justify a response without some sort of thorough opinion.

YK-Blaze

Also the pic sucks, drawing sonic is one of the easiest things in the world. you already have the finished character so you don't need to use any imagination. I am trying to improve by drawing my house, like the mug that is next to me. try drawing stuff other then sonic, i promise to you, you will improve.

BlackDevilX

Thank you for your feed back. I don't consider drawing Sonic a skill. I want to learn to draw people's faces, and body, so that i may create my own series. One of my favorite series on NG is the Valhalla Knights. Thank you for the advice. I will take it and learn to draw some of my surroundings

Nose-army

This post isn't DBZ enough for meIHATEYOU!!!

BlackDevilX

Kamehameha?

Emanhattan

I personally dont enjoy alvin earthworm´s stuff. Im not into dbz fights and shit. they are all plain BORING >__< still I think he is talented enough.

You know, sometimes I get reviews sayn "you should be working on SMBZ alvin!" ´
I HATE when people do that. not only because Im not alvin earthworm but because I dont think Its logycal to base a sprite movie in SMBZ wich is nicelly animated but its not worth watching 2 times.

also nice sonic. You could add more background detals tough.

we should do shit together soon, care, mate : D?

BlackDevilX

Sure, its good to hear that other artist aren't die hard fans. Yes, he is talented, which is why i think he should drop SMBZ. But what sort of cataclysmic reaction would that have being he a billions of fans? The webs as NG would be flooded with tons of OMFG ALVIN DROPS SMBZ BAWWW posts.

Emanhattan

SECOND TOUGHT

sprite movies are declining on popularity because its the same thing over and over, and because the spriters of the NEXT generations get lazyer and lazyer. hmhmh Sprite a day : (

and sprite tv 3 was full of lazy ass animators as well. I wanted it to be as epic as 2 : (

BlackDevilX

Did you read my review for it?

RubberNinja

lol

BlackDevilX

haha?

sonicshadow999

now blackdevil i do agree with u on one thing. TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE COMPARING SPRITE MOVIES TO SUPER SMASH BROS Z. !!!!!! I know that smbz is a really good flash but what i think is that people cant admit that there are movies that are better. Each sprite movie has it own quality!

PS: Do u have brawl? if u do whats ur friend code? OH AND CHECK OUT MY PAGE!

BlackDevilX (Updated )

Yes, but you know, its also the artist responsibility to not create something DBZ-esque, to influence that stereotype.

And yes i have brawl, but i rarely brawl anymore.

KomodoDragoon

Personally, I don't agree with you. I think Alvin is a great movie maker.

BlackDevilX

Never said he wasnt, i said sprite movies are declining because everyone wants to be like him

Perry

sprite movies suck, parody movies aren't something I love neither

BlackDevilX

Why do they suck? Once again i require thorough info in order to provide a reasonal response

Emanhattan

good : )

you might wanna change the name of the post. It says alvin earthworm is killing sprite movies, yet later on you say his rabid fans have the blame. same as egoraptor no offense

BlackDevilX (Updated )

Hes killing it inadvertantly. Not as a person, but as a genre. When people im me saying, I WANT TO MAKE N RPG LIKE UUU, i tell them, "Make a few movies first. Learn the basics, then create your own style"

Wholyish

Someone get Rtil on this page...

and animation can be original, you just have to know where to look. animation is art. the frontpage doesnt always get the best stuff, just what the people who come to the site want to see, or what the staff likes.

BlackDevilX

Believe me, I know this. There are many things that dont get showcased, that i enjoy, that are animated.

Roaltyx

I'm glad someone finnaly said it

BlackDevilX

People cant talk behind the scenes, but are too afraid to say what and how they feel, I for one am not that person.

Saroic

Honestly sprite movies have always been hated by most Newgrounders calling them "Lazy Flashes" and such there is a strange rivalry between them but yes I do agree with you Alvin Earthworm is ruining sprite flashes and honestly I've seen the same thing with Sonic and DBZ =/

BlackDevilX

I dont think the have been ALWAYS hated, people took a liking to classics such as Super Mario Reloaded, And Rokemon, two of the most defining sprite movies i have evere seen.

Golden-Fox

You know what? I have to agree with your opinion on behalf of Alvin-Earthworm. There ARE too many fans who talk about his work, and are demanding too much from him. That explains why he decided to go on hiatus, and why there hasn't been a decent, or a top quality sprite movie over the past year or so, with the exception of your recent submission.

I honestly did used to love his series until episode 6, which was over a year ago, but I didn't compare anything to his work. I pretty much lost the interest in his series after a long period from that episode. In other words, I moved on (besides the fact that I bitched about "Mario and Friends Goof Up").

You said something against him in which I have to agree with.

BlackDevilX

You are one of those sprite artist i consider a defining example of how you should make sprite animations. I personally like all of your stuff, not because it sprites, but because of how you execute your flash. No DBZ stuff(that ive seen), just pure sonic, and pure humor. And thank you for that.

Coolio-Niato

You can't reply to reasons that sprite movies aren't original or creative with " WELL SO AREN'T THESE OTHER TYPES OF ANIMATIONS". That's all you've been doing. Well guess what. There are original, meaningful animations out there that don't have to do with sprites.

I really don't care for sprite artists really. It's not that they are pixelated or whatnot, it's just that the moment I see an image from a game, or an image I've seen before, it ruins the fact that I'm watching something new and rather makes me feel like im watching the same old same old.

BlackDevilX

Did you not read about how ive been trying to get out of that? Read my other blog posts, if you wish. And also As far as ruining something, Sega is ruining sonic. So i try to at least stick to the roots of the matter.

Also you feel this way about sprites, about how they are something you've seen before, but what about those cliche jokes in animations that you have heard before? Or you predict the punchline before it happens? I cringe more when i hear stale jokes.

Vinstigator

I agree. He has some good animation, but his storyline is just a rip off of DBZ. I on the other hand... my animation may not be the greatest, but I concentrate more on storytelling and serious flash movies.That's why I made the quote "story is my main priority, everything else is secondary".

And when I do comedy movies, it's not a parody of a game. It's usually Newgrounds related or about people I know about in real life. I've only watched episode 1 of SMBZ and haven't watched the rest because it just got too repetitive. You're right, he should concentrate on something else rather than relying on the DBZ series.

BlackDevilX

Amen. Im suprised to see how many people actually agreed with what i said. Action isnt everything to me.

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