120% agree and that one of the reason i don't make animations, (beside the fact im lazy as hell) is i can't even draw a good stick man, i did for a while think about using sprites but id hate to go and make a movie then people say. "well sprites suck or you took the idea from alvin earthworm (don't get me wrong dude a great sprite artists.... but now all sprite animations are call copying him what the fuck?) anyhow moving on to the point, ive yet been able to play CC due to fact im a wii man. yet with the xbox 360 now being $199 bucks i could see getting it. let see... i cover animations/CC what next oh yes about the overweight subject, i went to england for the summer with a friend. now i seen a lot of overweight people and not people from the usa, im talking about British people.

p.s sorry for the gammer i know it sucks,btw plz keep up with your sonic game

L0L Robert Benfer ring any bells?

australia's the fattest country, now :3

also, regarding the sprites thing, people only rag on those who use other people's sprites, like sonic, mario and megaman.

creating sprites (and i don't mean palette-swapping) is just as artistic as using a paintbrush. i support sprites, but not the use of other people's sprites.

one last thought: " Its because we work just as hard copy and pasting as you do drawing it out."

LMAO

You don't know fat until you've been to Mississippi. It's the fattest place on Earth.

america shouldent be called fat jeez who knows they're might be some lazy fats in canada who knows?

lulz fat american </sarcasm>

Ima canadian, My older bro says americans are dum... I deny that.
Im not a tad bit offended how you say most canadians are overweight atleast Im not.

Where exactly are you in canada? Im in B.C.

About your new hand drawn series, are your hand drawn pictures the same as your mouse drawn? Im a artist myself in real life... so I wanted to ask ...

Fat America? That's some BS coming from foreigners. The Canadians are more overweight than America, and yet, no one says anything about them.

Castle Crashers sounds awesome, but unfortunately I can't get it. :(

Well said.
It seems though, that people always got to find a reason to bash sprites. If they can't animate themselves, they have no right to criticize other people who actually work, especially those who use sprites. Apparently though, everyone loves awesome rip-offs a lot better than sprite animations.

first of all, its true, not all americans are fat, They DO exist but its not like it all the population, in fact im afraid mexico has an even worse rate of obesity.

also, I think there is too much drama about sprites and shit.there are many hand drawn movies that are HEAVILY more overrated than that. like the "false egoraptors" no offense to anyone, but really, most people in Ng are sheep.

true. like mindchamber said, sprites are declining in popularity because the spriters are getting lazyer and lazyer.

when people think of sprite animation they dont think of me, or you, or short factor, they think on meatwad sprite and in the other lame spriters, THAT is the reason why sprites are down on their luck. period

Awesome!

nah dude 360 is 200$ now

dont cha know?

:D

*Agrees*

Keeeeeeeeeep telling yourself that fatty.

sure there are guys that like to improve, watch my first animations so you can see how much have I improved, But the spriters I have in mind have no intention WHATSOEVER to improve, and will keep making utter shit until we stop it

thta took me a long time to read and you are fuckin right man

Ehh... One more thing Since I can't edit my comments.

How much is flash, If I can afford it I'll try it out... Spriting ftw.

I've learned to just ignore the sprite haters. No matter how many good points you make they'll always try to get the last word in. But I don't really mind it because animation is a hobby for me, not a career. I'm focusing more on my music and I've actually got some connections in the industry. For example the guy who worked with me on my "Enemies" song is actually performing at the 2008 Latin Grammy's in November.

Instead of trying to argue with sprite haters I just do my best and let my movies speak for themselves. I've actually got quite a few sprite haters to say "I usually don't like sprite movies, but this one actually quite good in terms of story and animation". I actually love getting reviews like that because it shows that you can impress even the most dedicated sprite hater.

Anyway, my co-author and I have been working our asses off to make the finale of my series one of the best sprite movies to ever grace the portal. Here's a preview of the final battle. Keep in mind that this is just a beta, and will look much better when it's completed. Also keep in mind that the battle will be pretty long and one of the main characters will do, but I'm not saying who. You'll just have to wait until the movie comes out ;)

http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?im age=ffvifinalbattlepreview2ah5.swf&am p;width=480

Not only is it going to have some awesome action sequences, but it will be heavily story-based as well. I truly believe this movie has the potential to convert some sprite haters.

NG is an unbiased site. People should feel free to make anything they want. Also, where in Canada are you?

I agree with you 100% on the sprites rant man, while i love sprites and sprite animations to death, i really do. i just don't see why alvin earthworm is really THAT famous and influential, if anyone's seen his amazing drawing talent, they'll see just how easy it is to make sprite movies, granted that they are hard to make a decent looking one, but when it comes to the nitty gritty, it's not really doing much except for placing pixels in sequence and then tweening them around the screen, don't get me wrong, alvin is an amazing sprite animator but i don't really see why he bothers doing sprites if he can draw that great.

yes, yes i'm fully aware that i only have sprite submissions, but before y'all flame me, check out my dA page and see some of my more recent work

so anyway back on track i'm with you 100% BDX

hmmm....well...
1) Australia is now the fattest country (i think...the news says it a lot but I'm not sure if its true or if they are trying to scare us) I'm not overweight myself...nor do I see many overweight people around either...so...i dunno how it works...

2)back in my youtube days I worked with sprites...lol...so I have nothing agaisnt them...I think it's fun...ripping each individual sprite and pasting them onto each and every frame so close together just to make it as smooth as possible, wasting Hours Of Your Life Just To Make SEVEN SECONDS OF ANIMATION!!....the only thing I have a slight problem with is those damn sticks!! I like some of them....just not all...due to the fact that 2 thirds are crap. lol

I want CC but I don't have a 360 :(

I'll agree with you on the sprite haters comment. Sprite bashers are the most common form of idiot, yet they don't see anything wrong with stolent content (Death note, Simpsons, e.t.c). But nooo, turn it to sprites and people hate you for it. Know what I think? They're only doing it for their ego's sake, making themselves look badass while harassing authors for using sprites.

americans are all fat
true story :D

actually statistically Scotland is the most overweight country

actually no, there are like 5 or 6 very small islands that are the omst over weight, but the most over weight 'bigger country' if you want to be picky is ironically kuwait. if you don't know what kuwait its a sovereign Arab emirate on the coast of the Persian Gulf, enclosed by Saudi Arabia ... actually at the film course in scotland i taught like 7 Kuwaities, and they were telling me how in kuwait everyone is excessively lazy and drive everywhere, this of course is because they have all the oil.

and by the way, not even if your in some major animation company can you judge whats entertainment and what's not. the only thing one can possibly do when they critisize something is say how much they don't like it themselves. so don't worry about those people. there is no such this as right or wrong, just favorability among individuals.

"You must be using Windows Movie Maker to make sprite animations"

i actually was....sadly enough....but thats all i had at the time....an besides....youtube doesnt accept .swf files.......i tried when i first got flash....didnt work, then i remembered good old NG.

Dude Japanese are fatter than we are. Do people ever give a shit about those other countries no SUMO.I agree with you on that 1.

I went to Canda a few weeks ago on Labor Day weekend.
I really have to agree with you though how there are more fat people in other countries. When I went to a Mc Donalads in Canada the only thing I saw was fat people like crazy. To me, that's just sad.

Wow, I never knew canadians were that fat, cuz in mai area they ish nawt... BUT THERE ARE FAT BITCHES >=O

Do you know any good sprite series so I'm looking for a good one.

I don't think there's a problem with fat people, people should not say "You're fat" to someone cause they're just being bitches. i wish i had flash cause it'd be cool, also i'm fat too. also if i had flash, let's say i made a movie showing sounds of family guy sounds on sprites is that a bad thing or should i just start over. tell me what you think.

ive heard ur good at brawl so i want to challenge u! PM me ur code k

BDX ya know shadowNCS well he made one flash and has a better whistle status then you your is bronze and his is silver

the point is how did he did that you made more then 10 and he made 1 so whats the catch

right....do you know a game its just like super smash flash by cleod 9 but that game is with strawberry lock and some other idiots and if you do tell me and that game wasnt made by cleod 9