oh silly me.

I thought all this time it was the fact that every sprite movie for the last few years has derived almost everything about their scripts and plots and 'jokes' from elements of pop culture and that people are FINALLY catching on to the redundancy of it all, was what was killing sprite movies.

silly silly me

how can sprite movies be killed? there is already nothing original about the concept of ripping sprites from a sprite sheet and putting it in your flash and moving them around. granted, alvin earthworm is shitty and overrated but sprite movies in general are too

I agree. A sprite movie doesnt just have to be good cuz of sprites beating the shit out of each other. I mean cmon, when you see quality you see quality. And quality isnt sprites constantly getting smashed into the grounds over and over and strangely seems to live...I rate FFSX6 HIGH quality. Thumbs up again on the awesome movie. Kthxbye

~Metroid Escapes

"DBZ sprite fights are a dying breed that need to be taken out back and shot. Note: I said DBZ sprite fights. Theres a difference between faced paced action and blatant DBZ imitations. Leave DBZ fights to DBZ. Create your own."
you might have not noticed but "fast paced action" is what you use and so do alvin.
you also make big things pop from sonics hands that shoots real strong, if what you wrote was true that means you suck to.

Sprte movies are declining because they're bloody stupid.

Also the pic sucks, drawing sonic is one of the easiest things in the world. you already have the finished character so you don't need to use any imagination. I am trying to improve by drawing my house, like the mug that is next to me. try drawing stuff other then sonic, i promise to you, you will improve.

This post isn't DBZ enough for meIHATEYOU!!!

I personally dont enjoy alvin earthworm´s stuff. Im not into dbz fights and shit. they are all plain BORING >__< still I think he is talented enough.

You know, sometimes I get reviews sayn "you should be working on SMBZ alvin!" ´
I HATE when people do that. not only because Im not alvin earthworm but because I dont think Its logycal to base a sprite movie in SMBZ wich is nicelly animated but its not worth watching 2 times.

also nice sonic. You could add more background detals tough.

we should do shit together soon, care, mate : D?

tHIS IS AN AWESOME POST

SECOND TOUGHT

sprite movies are declining on popularity because its the same thing over and over, and because the spriters of the NEXT generations get lazyer and lazyer. hmhmh Sprite a day : (

and sprite tv 3 was full of lazy ass animators as well. I wanted it to be as epic as 2 : (

lol

now blackdevil i do agree with u on one thing. TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE COMPARING SPRITE MOVIES TO SUPER SMASH BROS Z. !!!!!! I know that smbz is a really good flash but what i think is that people cant admit that there are movies that are better. Each sprite movie has it own quality!

PS: Do u have brawl? if u do whats ur friend code? OH AND CHECK OUT MY PAGE!

Personally, I don't agree with you. I think Alvin is a great movie maker.

sprite movies suck, parody movies aren't something I love neither

good : )

you might wanna change the name of the post. It says alvin earthworm is killing sprite movies, yet later on you say his rabid fans have the blame. same as egoraptor no offense

Someone get Rtil on this page...

and animation can be original, you just have to know where to look. animation is art. the frontpage doesnt always get the best stuff, just what the people who come to the site want to see, or what the staff likes.

I'm glad someone finnaly said it

0.0 i myself have never encountered this kind of comparison
but good on you for saying something
it is extremely unfair to compare everything to SMBZ.
I saw your pic it looks good man

We need to revive the Pixel theory.

Honestly sprite movies have always been hated by most Newgrounders calling them "Lazy Flashes" and such there is a strange rivalry between them but yes I do agree with you Alvin Earthworm is ruining sprite flashes and honestly I've seen the same thing with Sonic and DBZ =/

You know what? I have to agree with your opinion on behalf of Alvin-Earthworm. There ARE too many fans who talk about his work, and are demanding too much from him. That explains why he decided to go on hiatus, and why there hasn't been a decent, or a top quality sprite movie over the past year or so, with the exception of your recent submission.

I honestly did used to love his series until episode 6, which was over a year ago, but I didn't compare anything to his work. I pretty much lost the interest in his series after a long period from that episode. In other words, I moved on (besides the fact that I bitched about "Mario and Friends Goof Up").

You said something against him in which I have to agree with.

You can't reply to reasons that sprite movies aren't original or creative with " WELL SO AREN'T THESE OTHER TYPES OF ANIMATIONS". That's all you've been doing. Well guess what. There are original, meaningful animations out there that don't have to do with sprites.

I really don't care for sprite artists really. It's not that they are pixelated or whatnot, it's just that the moment I see an image from a game, or an image I've seen before, it ruins the fact that I'm watching something new and rather makes me feel like im watching the same old same old.

I agree. He has some good animation, but his storyline is just a rip off of DBZ. I on the other hand... my animation may not be the greatest, but I concentrate more on storytelling and serious flash movies.That's why I made the quote "story is my main priority, everything else is secondary".

And when I do comedy movies, it's not a parody of a game. It's usually Newgrounds related or about people I know about in real life. I've only watched episode 1 of SMBZ and haven't watched the rest because it just got too repetitive. You're right, he should concentrate on something else rather than relying on the DBZ series.

Ew you're 20 years old and you watch and make sprite movies??

uhhh...

whos alvin earthworm????????

That's really really sad

That's something a 13 year old should do

What are you going to do. Tween sonic over to me to beat me up?

I agree with you and many other people: sprite movies are declining due to people sticking to 1 person to do it all! Sure, Alvin-Earthworm is great at flash, but I'm not up his ass waiting for a new episode everyday like SOME people are. I simply check maybe... once a month. Not there? Oh well. I have other things to see. And it's true: quality isn't having people getting beat the crap out of graphically every 5 mintutes! It's having special graphics, effects, and the rest. To me, storyline ALSO affects quality. Without one, it's just a dumb flash animation that will get nowhere important. Sprite movies decline due to the fact some viewers don't have the attention span to like it unless there's blood. Without it, a hardworking flash animator has this: zomg wtf u sux me want sonic kick marios a$$ roflmao XP. Reviews like that make me sick that I even like sprite animations. Everything falls when people can't even pay attention to the other factors (*cough* drama, comedy, suspense *cough*). I'm simply too tired (and scared, I think someone is in my house) to continue. But long story short, people have the attention span of a cocker spaniel when it comes down ot sprite animations, which is killing its communty. John, out.

No sprite movies have always been bad. OH LOOK AT ME I CAN TWEEN SONIC AND MARIO AROUND THE SCREEN WITH DRAGON BALL Z SOUND EFFECTS DUR HUR HUR HUR HUR.

The only people who like them are 13 year old newgrounds statwhores

What annoys me about Alvin's fans is that they claim him as the best animator ever when he doesn't animate (or even DRAW) shit. The SMBZ movies are well-made and well-choreographed, sure, but there's no artistic merit, creativity, lasting value (to people over the age of 13), etc.

His success is down to four things: Mario, Sonic, Dragon Ball Z, and a very large knowledge of flash as a program (i have no idea if he actually knows much about animation/colour theory - judging by his perverted deviantart gallery, I'd say 'not much'). Three of these factors have absolutely massive fanbases which partake in a big number of NG's audience.

Sprite movies are in decline because everyone's making the same crap, day in, day out, for people who for some retarded reason actually enjoy watching the same crap day in day out. It's pretty ironic when someone tells you 'oh character x looks like character y from Karate Man, lol what a ripoff', and then goes off to watch something like 'Mario Smash Bros X Chakra Fantasy Part 3'.

A lot of people are also beginning to 'wake up' and see how damn lazy and easy-to-make sprite movies are, even compared to the Foamy shorts and the Awesome compilations. Some sprite movies got away with it by having good writing and some neat ideas (and honestly, blooper reels aren't harming anyone), but taking advantage of the game's setting and characters has slowly devolved into the more juvenile stuff like 'lol Mario farted on Luigi!'

Ok I'm going

You've made a good point there. And as other people have clearly stated, Sprite movies are also declining because no one wants to invest enough damn effort into creating one that's actually good. But who am I to talk? I can't even make an animation of my own.

"he didn't help it by not addressing to his fans that NOT EVERY SPRITE MOVIE HAS TO BE LIKE SMBZ IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE GOOD. "

You're acting like he has to tell people how to act and shit. That's not the truth. Honestly, I'm not a fan of the series but to be blunt with you, He shouldn't have the responsibility of others opinions. It's ALL opinions in the end, and how they view it. Just like you are entitled to your own person opinion so are everybody else. If everyone liked his work, than seriously just lay it off. No need to diss on the guy cause of his fan boys or whatever. That's not right by saying "his work isnt that good" Just relax and take it in for a bit.

Chill out dude. Sprite movies don't succeed in the end anyway (:

Look for Mario tweening at 12 frames per second

You've got a point. People constantly want to be like Alvin Earthworm and copy his style,not to mention compare every sprite flash to his.So now, youve got a bunch of fanboy clones! there is a fine line between a tribute and a clone.And remember, Fanboyism is not an honor, ITS A DISEASE!!!

so alvin when is SSMZ 99 coming out? : D

It sounds more like your issue is with the fanbase that was SPAWNED from Mario Z than anything else, which makes sense. As far as I know, Marc just made that as a hobby and not for any sort of popularity of thinking "THIS IS SUCH A GREAT IDEA" or anything and people just blew it out of proportion.

You almost sound like you're trying to suggest that sprite movies are a respectable form of animation. With or without Alvin-Earthworm's influence, it's the same old shit every time anyway. It's not like you're making your own characters or story that reflects any piece of yourself, it's a lazy man's way to get internet attention. He's a familiarity whore who's riding the popularity of characters that he didn't draw, are not his and never will be, and so is pretty much anybody else who touches that bullshit. Don't let it get to you, if he's incapable of taking a a few hours to draw his own animation cells and create his own characters. As long as you're staying original, drawing your own characters, and not pasting together pictures copied from a videogame into something that the creators of the original game would probably laugh at. Sprites and familiar characters always get a whole 1.0 score higher than they deserve.

Well I agree as well about sprite movies, sprite doesnt need alot of action and nonsense to look good, it should have good quality ,and some sprite movies I saw that is almost like alvins style, well I say they will have a hard time to do that kind of animation ,but they should come there own style animation at least, one thing the art you made is cool butI think you should'nt use that yet until FFSX you are making is over so you should stick to sprite till that time comes.

The reason every compares other sprite movies to Alvins's is because he actually set the bar higher when it came to timing, angles and dynamic action. You cant blame people for looking for a higher standard ,
He aint killin shit, ya need to step your sprite game up, or be taken out simple as that. But if you really wanna destroy that standard, then take it to the next level and draw your next pieces, sprite animation is supposed to be a learning piont for the next level animation which is orginal flash. BUt if you want to stay in the sprite game, ya need to destroy that best at it atm, thats Alvin and Proxide

I don't agree that it's Alvin's fault, but I do agree with you on people comparing it so SMBZ.

It's stupid that some people can't see a diffrence.

I was quite the fan of Alvin's work. He was a GREAT sprite animator and had mad skillz. However, one thing that pissed me off was that he was too ignorant and stupid. Ever heard of Eternity's Child that was supposedly coming to WiiWare? The creator Lenard Buc (or whatever his name is) got so fed up from a couple of bad impressions that he official denounced himself from the gaming making business to work on his art to be come an unknown guy again.

What is wrong with Alvin is that he doesn't know how to take criticism. When hundreds of people don't like sprites and you make a sprite movie that is popular, you are 100% GUARANTEED to notice a few "haters." Alvin just wasn't man enough to except that fact, and began to "lose interest in the popular series." Again, I LOVED his work, visited his deviantart page and still wait for the next episode (which I can watch on youtube, but choose to see it bunched together) but if this grown man can't take what comes with popularity, not everybody liking you, maybe he should stop visiting the internets.

As for comparing every sprite movie to SMBZ, I do think it's a little absurd, but it comes with the territory; people can't forget great movies.

Your picture is really nice. I tried to draw sonic a number of times but always fail. My grass textures are always bad as well. I only managed to get one completely "right" but the others flat out suck.

hey man are you working in the ep 7 of final fantasy sonic?

Maybe sprite movies are declining because more people are realising they can actually make things for themselves. I used to make sprite movies when I started animation, they helped me get off the ground. But I wouldn't go any further with them now.
The best movies on NG are ones where all the animation and graphics have been made by the artist. In my opinion sprite movies demonstrate little tallent. At the end of the day you aren't any better than the graphics made by some guy at nintendo.
So to conclude, I think people are finally doing something original and leaving behind sprites. Do we really need any more sprite movies? They all follow the same basic pattern, which I think is boring.

Your a massive hypocrite, do you really not see the irony in all this?

'Leave DBZ fights to DBZ. Create your own.'

Why not leave the Sonic sagas to the Sonic animes. At the end of the day I don't care if you make a Sonic flash or not, but you can't condemn people for the same blatant things you are doing.

That's true and i agree with most of it... That army of 12 yo SMBZ'tardz "OH its good but NOT nearly as SMBZ" kills sprite animations here >_>.
DBZ fighting, i dunno BDX they are actually easier to do than realistic hand to hand fight or sword fight, but yeah i also have been lacking basic beat everything up using BEAMS flashes on ng XD.

I recall you said alvin uses high fps... As i remember he said that he uses 24 but whatever... but you said it... mario with DBZ powers is old idea.

So yeah... Good picture man.... i really like it, but i sonic drawn flashes are reused here ;]...
Take care
~DuDuL

Even I do it but I agree, people expect too much from the spriters mostly.

I wish I could make my own sprite movies. It will change the world I hope...

alvin works fine and hard and all i can know about friendly advices to some other flash artists is calling them an asshole right work alone like arnas

so when's the next FFSX coming out?
I agree, most sprite types nowadays involve fighting on the DBZ genre, there should be more story to it.

Well, like I said in my most recent post, users need to be more original these days. I also have a lot of fans comparing my stuff to Alvin's work, which is completely ridiculous. I work with comedy and story writing, I rarely work fight scenes nowadays. Users should stop comparing my work or anyone else's work with Alvin's flashes. I respect his work and all (I'm not here to spread hate), but my stuff is completely different.

fans should realize that SMBZ isn't the only good sprite flash out there. I want users to follow my example (and maybe even yours) and come up with something unique that Newgrounds hasn't seen before in a sprite animation.

as for the users who hate sprites:

So what if sprites flashes are not original, I don't give a fuck! I only use them to express my creativity using recognizable characters from the old days. Freedom of speech anyone?
Newgrounds is supposed to be EVERYTHING, by everyone. let others express their creativity the way they want to, there's no need to be an asshole around here all the time.

Live and let live, guys...

Randy Solem and other great animators need to come back.

I'm getting tired with this myself. I personally think he has some good animations, but I don't go praising them like they're the bibles or something. I'll admit I did this once or twice, but then I realized that it could discouraged some people and keep them from coming back to Newgrounds. For example, Meinos's Luigi: Two Lights' Hero. I haven't seen a storyline like this in all of Newgrounds. Even though the fights are DBZ based, the main thing that should be focused on would be how original is the story.

Agreed. Randy Solem could at least carry a original thought.

The point where a genre is dominated by a furry who makes DBZ rip-offs is the time where the old is better then the new.

Do a barrel roll!

They can live. I can come with original ideas seriously, I'm good at animating sprites (not Mario actually or fighting scenes) but it's just I lost motivation. Why? Maybe Alvin? I don't think so actually, but he didn't inspired me at all, actually... nothing.

PD: NOT Randy Sole PLEASE! NOT HIM!

Personally, I don't think SMBZ is the reason sprite movies are becoming less common. And although Alvan Earthworm can make a pretty sweet series, and the best sprite fights, (IMO) it is not the only one out there. I have not actually seen sprite movies compared to SMBZ in any reviews so far, so it can't be that common. Also, there are still some big sprite artists out there. Just look at Bigfoot3290, araskin500/pthouse, randy-solem, and more. I will admit, sprite videos are becoming less popular, but I don't think Alvan is to blame.

I don't care if you like Alvin-Earthworm or not, but what you're saying is bullshit.
Not because I love him so much that I want to protect him (I really don't care about him as well), but because of a completely different reason.

You claim that sprite movies are declining, because everbody believes he is the "leading man" on sprite movies? What kind of lame excuse is that? Do you say people can't make good sci-fi movies when they saw Star Wars? Do you say people can't make good Fantasy movies when they saw Lord of the Rings? (I don't like both movies that much, but they were the first examples I thought of)

People often seek inspiration by people and stuff they admire. That doesn't mean that it has to be worse.
I just can't see the connection between Alvin's work and the decline of Sprite movies.

You want to know the reason why sprite movies are declining? 2 reasons:
1) there are many people who don't like them, and won't even giv them a chance, because they have been disappointed too often, which brings me to my second point.
2) People are running out of ideas. I don't know why, but there are nearly no sprite movies out there with stories, or even good jokes. It's mostly physical comedy, fart jokes, screaming, use of awful voice clips... the lowest of comedy.
And of course fight scenes.

Think of it: Have you ever seen good sprite movies with a storyline? Alvin at least tried to put a little story behind the whole thing, even if it's ripped off DBZ. I also thinks it's a bit overrated.

And something else... you are a hypocrite. You too make fighting games with sprites, the difference is that you don't take the DBZ theme - you're ripping of the Final Fantasy theme. Fast paced as well. Or you made them, since you want to get out of sprites.

To clear something up: I think that non-sprite movies are more original than sprite movies, but even a sprite movie can be original. The art isn't everything guys, story and writing count too.

Too much fucking drama on newgrounds huh? same as with pigeonmaster
I think that we have discussed this subject so many times that it gives us spriters more reasons to move on.

Considering the fact that I like his movies, it's very akward that I entirely agree with this post.

And actually, one of his Deviantart posts had said he was entirely leaving the internet and stopping production on SMBZ. For some reason, he deleted the post soon after and is staying on deviantart, but deleted all of his news posts on Newgrounds.

But yes, I entirely agree with you. Far too many times have I seen an over-the-top sprite movie with the comments 'LolZ I wantEd tO mAke SpriEtz AfTer SEeIng SMBZ'. And far too many times have I gone through the comments of sprite, hell, any movies(sprite movies aren't the only ones targeted for some reason) with a review saying 'LOLZ, sucks, neds to be meor lke SmBz. 0/10'

So while it appears he's done with SMBZ, people continue to review it and compare everything to it. =/

I'll have to agree with you, first off on the topic of furries, and second off how the sprite film needs to recreate itself, or die. There are plenty of other, well done sprite films, that have nothing to do with the SMBZ series, that get little credit because of many a fanboy. Take the various "Kingdom" shorts. Very well done, IMO, but aside from a group of fans, not mentioned as often, due to the plague of fanboys. I will admit, I did like the SMBZ series, but not so much that I'd compare anything not it, to it. Overall though, I'm glad to see that someone's willing to stand up to the idiot masses, good work!

I agree with: 'not every sprite movie has to be like smbz in order to be good'.

I don't agree with: 'DBZ sprite fights are a dying breed that need to be taken out back and shot'.

And why are you making such a big deal about this? Is it because alvin-earthworm's work got all the attention and yours didn't?

Sprites are more overdone than Awesome parodies, just give it time and people will completely forget about them, like slap bracelets. That's not a bad sonic drawing though, real animation is harder, but it can end up much cleaner than sprite work.

this is real hip hop not no phoney phrancise

You have some good points in there man, one of the main reasons for this (IMHO) is that alvin somehow brought the sprite genre alive, because of all the crappy movies around, i mean it was considered (along with stick aniamations) a "noob" genre, until he did some good work.

This at the same time inspired other people to do decent sprite animations, such as "not another sprite fight" or the "sprite tv!" trilogy so basically he helped an almost dying genre that nowdays is again dying.

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About your art, its pretty good, i just checked out the sonic picture, i would suggest 2 things.

1) put some shadow to the mountains, sonic has shadows, the grass has shadows, why not put shadows to the mountains?

and also

2) put some "fog" in the base of the mountains, that will make them look bigger and farther away.

-Lex

I like psycosis's videos, when he makes something other than Thwomps.

Oh i see, he quits now on the series, i'll remove him from favorites then, plus he had some strange cartoons on youtube, youtube poops??? wtf? he like 6? well anyway i agree with you. some movies do not have to be like SMBZ. people need to come up with their own ideas, not related DBZ sounds or nothin. oh and best of luck to your flash movies ^_^

If this post was made two years ago, I would of disagreed. But now that I see how crappy and overrated that series is, I coulden't agree more. The opinion that sprite animations suck is also pretty ignorant, in the fact that there can be custom sprites made from scratch, and turned into a totally awsome flash. Its by choice that sprite animators choose to parody things like mario, sonic and the like.

Finally! Somebody tells the truth!! But one thing I'd like to say is: Sprite Movies and handrawn Movies are EXCACTLY the same. The only divernce is that spirtes are pixlized. Oh yeah, nice pic of Sonic, althoug it must be really difficlut to draw the eyes. One more thing, whats a Furry???

"Most movies on NG parody something. Guess what, parodies arent original anymore. How many, epic/date/superhero/disaster/meet the Spartans type movies are there now? Sorry, you may feel that sprite are shitty and overrated, but you know what, so is making parodies of things that have been parodied before. Only difference is that sprite movies uses already made pictures."

I was never defending video game parodies either. But even though they aren't original, they at least have more artistic merit than sprite movies.

In sprite movies, nothing is drawn.

If something is drawn, it's either a shitty looking sprite movie (because clearly anyone who actually knows how to draw wouldn't be making sprite movies) or it's not actually a sprite movie.

Sprite movies are unoriginal. No matter how you slice it, it's impossible to be COMPLETELY original with any sprite movie because when you get right down to it, the drawings aren't original, and usually neither is the music or the idea.

Oh snap, I forgot you were a sprite animator lol. Let me put it to you this way, my series Nightgun IS inspired by a few different shows, Hellsing, FMA, Samurai Champloo, Afro Samurai I'll be the first to admit it. And you're right, there's nothing wrong with that.
But it would be something wrong with it if I used programs to cut out the character drawings from Samurai Champloo, rearranged them in different backgrounds from the same show, added my own voice actors and put my name on it. That's just plain theft, and I would probly fire on somebody if I caught them doing that with any of my movie. I still spent years developing my own plotlines, character designs and animations. I dare you to just give making your own work and not stealing Yuji Naka's a try.

lol spritez

well i not much of a sprite animater but try it once or twice.
it greatly limits what you can do, all you can really do with sprite is make them fight
cuz that what they was made for. (a lot of sprite come for games where you have to fight stuff)
unless you know how to edit sprites, your stuck with just a bunch of attecking, running, jumping
sprite.

about alvin-earthworm he have a effect kind of like egorathor. only difference is that avlin fans
compare EVREYTHING that is a sprite fight to SMBZ! it crazy but heck what can we do?
the fans will complain and compare one way or another

I agree!!!

I see where you are going with it and I also think he might have stop makeing his movies cause of all that bugging.I to wish to make some sprite movies and not worry that some one will say its not as good as whatever....but then agian I dont have a flash or evern know where to get one so Im down about that and its good to hear what others are thinking about whats going on with NGs so no one should hate on you your just telling it how it really is thats all.Good luck on your work and 1st movie hope you take your time on it so it can be more then you think it will be.^-^

You are right partly. He was the reason I came onto newgrounds. And I have compared sprite movies to his. I don't so much anymore though. Well, sprite movies aren't declining because of alvin. There are good series out there, like yours and a few others. It is the author's laziness that is the problem. I love sprite movies that are well made. Yours was a good example. Alvin is one of the few that did put a lot of effort into it.

Well, yeah, I know what you mean; if you want don't believe meh, but I read all that.
Yeah, I already knew why AEW retired, the fans didn't STFU so he got out of newgrounds, and sincerely, I felt how the weight of the world got away from his arms and the fact he stopped flash, stop getting PM's etc.
Right you are: Sprite movies don't need to be DBZ or Naruto type of fight, check for example pigeonmaster's flashes or check Thwomps: the movie, Thwomps made an enjoyable fight scene, WITH NO DBZ THINGYS, maybe some of Mario's mover while killing the Thwomps were but that was part of the joke...
Alvin's flash were good when HE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO MADE DBZ STYLE FLASHES!!!
The fact is the holy ORIGINALITY!!!! I used to be a sprite maker, yeah, I didn't retire, just that i stopped, Falco's paradox was going to be a Sprite Flash, but I changed the style to FBF since people were bumping with shitty reviews. So guys, FIRST OF ALL!!! Sprite haters please, just do this super simple thing, DONT WATCH DAMN SPRITE MOVIES AND JUST VOTE 0, 1, OR 2 OR BETTER, DONT EVEN VOTE!!!
And sprite animator, creating a DBZ sprite movie is difficult, and quite taking, but in this actual world everyone just care about SEX, SEX, AND MOAR SEX... I can bet ther are EVEN madness haters, Pico haters, SSBB haters, and EVEN AWESOME HATERS....
IF YOU MAKE YOUR SPRITES; YOUR MOVIE CAN BE GREAT!!!
My first Flash passed just because I made the BigFuzzyKitten sprite, which sucked actually...
Now, Haters such as Zekey etc. just don't watch the Flashes and to Sprite animators, try a different style, first because SMBZ is over, no one likes them anymore, and ALSO is HELL DIFFICULT TO MAKE, all those effects are just too complicated at least for me.... Dave Dec Shade 1310, OUT!!!

I hate to go off topic, but nice picture. Have fun reading all these rants.

Quite the contrary Alvin-earthworm and Proxicide are the main guys who put major signs of effort By effort I'm talking more then just sprite ripping, sprite edits, pop culture jokes, "it's funny because *insert game character name here* is in it" and generally over the top fanservice, although ironically their fanboy story ideas are the main reason for their praise with the work they put into it coming 2nd.

and don't even get me started on Dragonball Z! DBZ fights have been done to death and need to die or at the very least some new ideas, you can't expect yourself NOT to be compared to the best when you're doing a variation of basically the same fight choreography EVERY sprite animator has done.

I see where you're coming from on this, and I think AE needs to learn how to take harsh criticism. Speaking of improving drawing skills, I'm working on mine so I would have some credibility.

I agree in a way with you sprites animations have decayed alot( the best example is sprite TV 3 just ew), but its not Alvin earthworm its just the fact people dont get the right ideas and even if DBZ fights ahve been made to death his skills are WAY WAY better than the avarage animator and hes one of the best ones around however it sucks to be compared to him and i agree with you in that specialy if the person who reviews CANT do somehting better than you do so -high fives to you- , but one thing though is you cant blame alvin for being good u have to blame people for being well "people"

High FPS doesnt make action fast, its how the animator uses his frames and i think alvin uses 24 fps, im not planing to get into sprites i find em quite complicated and id rather use drawn things than pixels for quality =) but that doesnt mean i hate sprites, its just not the thing id preffer to animate with

It's true.
Every sprite animation is compared to SMBZ. I think the reason sprite animations are dying is 'cause people try to do the exact same thing that he does. If people could just stop creating their own DBZ-style fights and make something original, it could probably save sprite animations.

Well its a really goos series. But its actually retarted when people have to say that SMBZ is better than any other flash. Whoop dee doo its just a flash. WHat BDX is trying to say is that just because SMBZ is reeally cool and all. DOesn't mea u have t otell otherpeople about SMBZ by comparising. It kinds makes people stop making sprites and makes people feel sad that it ain't good as SMBZ.

true enough, its a shame for sprite movies, but think about, in my opinion everyone needs a torch of light to go with, and with that a torch carrier. now DB (i use DB as i know there is three versions, just DB, then Z and then GT so use DB more since it can refer to other than just Z) is quite often mis-understood, as anyone who uses the energy blast idea is instantly put down for DB style which is unfortunate as DB style is a combnation of the fast teleportions, exaggerated hits (eg. a punch that is shown to have streched the struck area beyond normal ability), countinous struggles and energy blasts, now i understand that in this day and age there are haters and fans, there always will be. now i enjoy alvins style and series but i have come to the terms of wanting to smack him in the jaw for not just telling it to our face. now lets just carry on to other things, like actually animating things, now i've seen alot of them, the ones however i enjoy most are the ones with fully coloured bodys, and voices, or just fully draw bodys (spikevalentine for one) but i know the hard work that goes into them, but i've seen that alvin has gotten lax with his flash and such, and so i believe you should just leave it alone, true we have DB fights and such, and if done RIGHT are amazing, however the breed is dieing due to shitty planning on the plot of the fight (flow, direction whatever you call it) often having a one sided thing going, SHIT, a flash that shows an equal fight between two is increible because when moving fast you are excited over whose gonna be the winner. now listen well (i by no means are saying i'm better than you, by far i'm properly shit compared to you, but hell, theres a word for people like me who love drawing and try their damnest to draw good drawing (not flashs tho) and thats a dreamer, the founder of tomorrow) you shouldn't call DB style worthless, yo should consdier the fact that you can only get the most intence bare hand fights with such things (stickmen normally, but i have seen some real shit out there) and since bare hand is normally the easiest for a starting flash animator, they normally use DB style as a base for such things since there not any weapons to draw. call me a defender, a desperate defender, or whatever, i don't care, i stand with my words. the only thing that makes a style of animation or kind of movie wax and wane with strength is the animators at the time, remember that

I totally agree. i mean, the series are OK but it kinda "washed" everyone brains. Make them thing like: A sprite movie has to be DBZ related or something.

Alvin is an awesome animator, fucking awesome to be honest. But he kinda screwed the image of the sprite animation.

As a sprite animator myself I've learned everybody's mistakes and mines! In my next sprite flash I will be original and seek for stuff made by MYSELF. Not only the story, even there may be some sprites made by MYSELF.

The sprite animation is in danger, in my opinion. And Alvin hasn't all the guilt, many spriters have it, including me :(

Nice post, I agree with you the whole way.

I love all mediums of entertainment and storytelling, sprite animations are one of them as long as they are done with creativity and the creators dont take themselves to seriously.

theres to many anime lovin faggots out there with a good eye for color that think they have a right to tell the rest of us what we should and shouldn't like.
and saying that Alvin didn raise the bar is kinda wrong, he did, his action granted isnt at the level of proxides but its way better than anyone elses out there.
and since most of theses kids are doing mario sprite movies its only far they will compare it to the best ones out there. which is alvins.
SF spriters are fucked tho cause Proxide will hold that claim for a long long time.

Half the original FBF animators cant produce the flash effects Proxide can do, including Adam Phillps and others. Hes more of a flash master than most animators out there cause he has MASTERED Flash. Being a traditional animator that animates in flash doesn't not make you a flash master.
so my point is, when it comes to sprite movies with mario and sonic characters
Alvn killed it. and so far no one as done it better.

I like other things than SMBZ so I really don't care if the next episode comes out or not. Also SMBZ fans shut the f..k up about the next episode, I know you want it, but just watch the other ones and do the things you like to do ok?

Thanks, Blackdevil for posting that. People need to realise that making fast paced action scenes that copy DBZ is not what makes an epic sprite movie.

Have you noticed a lot of famous authors on NG have been commenting on this post? Users like Kirberphor15 (famous for TTA) MindChamber (he's like an admin or something? correct me if i'm wrong) and DuDul, of all people DuDul was here XD and HadokenDude too? Your attracting a lot of attention.

Oh yeah I forgot about the main topic XD.

I just realized a lot of NG users just don't like sprites because they think it's "unoriginal" So what? If I made a series of sprite movies, would it make me a bad author and animator just because I, how Ashei says "TWEEN SONIC AND MARIO AROUND THE SCREEN WITH DRAGON BALL Z SOUND EFFECTS?" Well listen up jackasses, and listen good because i wont repeat myself: SPRITE MOVIES AND HAND DRAWN MOVIES ARE EXACTLY THE SAME!!!!!! Some idiots think the of sprite animators are lazy and put no effort in their movies. Well guess what? If they didn't put any effort into their movies, then they wouldn't be getting high scores. Sprite Haters listen to this and listen good because a lot of you Sprite Haters are hard at hearing: Don't say stuff like " SPRITES ARE HORRIBLE AND UNORIGINAL" because Sprites aren't unoriginal. People just copy the sprites and animate them, whats so bad about that? Oh and being a Sprite Animator doesnt automatically make you lazy.

I forgot to mention RubberNinja in the grouop of famous NG users above Xl

alvin retired from sprite movies happy now?!?!?!

dude you totaly fuking corect! dam strait alvin has good flash i sai that but it has been a fucking year no trailer and everyone wants him in colabs and tributes so yeah. you are FUCKING corecht!!!

Which programm did you use to do FFSX5, tell me please!

thnx for pointing that out he needs to stfu but you rock blackdevilx!!!!!!!!

Well, right, Sonic's quest for power came first, and I saw the series, its different since it had a different storyline, but anyways, you know that if someone remakes SQFP or SMBZ it will not get blammed but it will have a sucky score and bad reviews...
Y'know? a way to make sprite movies are

1. Getting out of DBZ style (DBZ sounds are ok)
2. Try making your own pixelated sprites
3. Sprites are the lvl 2 difficulty in flash, so make it well guys, plz, don't make the same error as me... (AKK series)
4. Music can't be off the style, if its a metroid flash you can't put a Pokemon battle theme (if the movie is a parody maybe)
5. Backgrounds should fit the style to...
6. AGAIN, DBZ style is bad because, its overused, can get annoying, and ITS FUCKIN' HARD TO MAKE!!!! in conclusion, dammit, DBZ style can be good if its made with DBZ sprites BUT still, no, just NO. Sprites are dying since Randy Solem got away, and anyways he didn't use DBZ in any of the flashes that i saw he made.

man u are so right, like five people gave my vids 0's because it wasn't as good as SMBZ. and another thing. how do u make an rpg like u did. with the buttons like ATTACK and Magic and stuff. please someone tell me.

The title led me to think you were an Alvin hater at first, but reading into your post you do make a good point. I find his work amazing myself, but having people compare everything to his work is idiotic. This point should be made though. Alvin isn't killing spite movies, the fans are. They find something that takes things a notch above others and then decide that if everything else can't match it, it's garbage.

Once their words reach their idol artist, they become annoyed to the extent of quitting. It's happened to Misteroo, It's happened to Kirbopher15, and Alvin himself. I can imagine the constant "when's the next episode coming out" or "hurry the fck up" comments must be starting to agitate you as well. There's nothing we can do and nothing will ever change.

All I can recommend is to keep doing what you want and ignore the comments of all the retarded purists that can't accept fantastic videos for what they are instead of what someone else can do with it.

Your series is amazing, take your time, and do what you think is right.

~Remix

I actually didn't know his fanbase was so large, sure, his movies are great, but I didn't really think of them to be top notch. Can't argue he knows how to throw a fight scene together though. Didn't know he was gone either, didn't bother to check. Fanboys ruin everything...

As for your drawing, shows promise, that's for sure. If this is your beginning work, I shudder to think what movies you'll trample when you get better. I can almost see FFSX animated... looks amazing in my head, all these dynamic angles :P

I hope we can all see some animated work from you, and the next episode of FFSX in the months to come. Amidst all the generic work on newgrounds, glad there are some people trying to break the cycle. The only gripe I have with your own sprite series is the over dramatic talking, for once I'd love to see someone make a movie where people talk like people, not like they're in an anime (not that anime is bad, just saying, someone wouldn't make half a speech when they get attacked, they'd say something more hastily).

I know I shouldn't complain, not like I know much about animating or anything, but it's more of a suggestion... don't kill me :P

that is what im sick of. people who keep comparing everything to smbz even if it has nothing to do with anything about it. i do like alvins flashes but i even hardly watch them and its getting boring. alvin fans always say to other authers that their flashes are good but you suk compared to alvin. and authers responde to who the fuk is alvin? peole keep watching alvins movies over an over again and they really need to get a life. and if think its quality its quality therfore your flashes are even better than even alvins so keep it up

Hey BlackDevilX I couldn't agree with you more. Though I know nothing about flash at all I still think your opinion is correct 100%. I like his work but people shouldn't be telling other people that they absolutely need his help to make a good flash. Well got to run I'll see ya.

i was thinking of makeing my own but my supid make is hard to do it

BlackDevilX, I'm a much greater fan of yours than I am of Alvin-EarthWorm, but I just have to say you're a bit harsh on him. I mean he''s not killing sprite movies, fans that are constantly comparing every sprite movie with Super Mario Bros Z are killing sprite movies. I honestly think you and Alvin-EarthWorm can't be compared cuz' you have different style. Oh, and anout those tips you offered, I maybe ask for your tips and critique someday

can i have ur friend code for brawl. im undefeated!

Holy crap, did you read all of that?

i must say, you do have a point there, why is it that sprites need to be about DBZ related fighting? my own sprite movie Dark Sonic VS Emerl Ep2 had reference to DBZ, more so than my other flash work, and unsurprisingly it's my highest scoring one

but it's not just Alvin that is bringing down sprite movies, i'm referring to Sprite a Day, that series is [IMO] one of the biggest reasons people hate sprites, nearly every sprite movie i've seen involves DBZ, and i personally hate that, yes, those sprite movies are good, some awesome, but to me it's same old same old

not that i'm one to talk, my Dark Sonic Vs Emerl series is DBZ related, but mainly because i have great ideas i want to put out there, but hey, thats me XD

but i will take up on your offer, i would like your opinions on my own sprite work, rather recently i've been getting into sprite animation, i know i could have done a lot more than 4 solo movies in the space of a year but i'm a lazy bugger, so yeah, i'll pm you the links

hope you do well in your own flash series!

that is very true!

yeah

dude ffsx are the best sprite movies and smbz comes in second im not tht big of a mario fan and sonic pwns everybody so u keep doin wut ur doin

i love ur ffsx movies

that is very true about noobs that dont know talent

You're not serious...He makes a couple sprite movies, yes, guess what, get a life, seriously. First off, you blame Alvin-Earthworm, it's the fans who compare it to SMBZ retard not Alvin. Also, I must say he makes way better sprite movie then you(I still find your movies very enjoyable)! He decided to make a flash about Mario and Sonic follow a somewhat DBZ storyline, but if you've payed any attention at all and watched the videos, maybe you could learn that he is shaping the gosh dang movies into a completely different storyline then what DBZ!!!!!! He likes furries and likes DBZ there's no problem about that, I should start making fun of you for making your movies because they have like every character from every series that was on a Nintendo console on there! Seriously, let me point this out...

IT'S THE FANS WHO ARE MAKING THE RIOT NOT ALVIN!!!!!!!!!

I agree not evrey sprite movie needs to be compared to SMBZ there are good ones theat deserve more attention than they get but pepole ignore them just because there not up to what they call ''Alvin Earthworm work'' now I don't hate him for this but fans that can't shut up if you say one thing about SMBZ -_-

All i can say is this i understand how ya feel and i watched all of your flashes and i love them not because their sprites reminds some fighting style of Dbz but because of the story line it has for it. i'm inspired to do sprite flashes since i like writing story's and i have seen many flashes for the past years i have watched on newground of course its gonna be a pain for me since i know jack stuff about making sprites and such but we all have to learn the hard way. Dbz fighting is well a dieing breed in most cases and sadly people will do it still I'm sure me on the other hand i'm not baseing it all around fighting. i look at flashes who has kick ass story lines and i dont give a damn if its sprites or drawings or whatever they do, honestly what ever it is ill like it. i played alot of games and watched tons of anime that has interesting story lines. alvin does his own work and i'm sure you have too and i know for a fact i wouldn't try to compare anything thats sprites from his to others, ITS what we all do in our own way in useing sprites lol. sorry if i feel like a new person who's randomly writing a comment for ya but i do understand and hope you continue in what you do in your work and i rather see the series you made go all out into a great flash lol.

P.S. btw your drawings are good too aswell i checked them out and can say not bad lol i have no idea how to draw but your hell of alot better than i am and nice touch on the opening scene with Final fantasy sonic X :P and also sorry if i said things sorta off topic and have a good one till i see number 7 some year haha :P

There is honestly nothing I can disagree with you upon. I know Alvin is talented, but his fans, pft! They have to be the whiniest fans in existence! Alvin must be tiring of his own fans, but as far as I know, more flash movies are inspired by SMBZ than originally thought out in plot. Plus, those fans need to stop comparing other flash movies to Alvin's! There is more than one way to make a good flash; and that does not need violence, DBZ fights, or overused crap! And if this nonsense of the DBZ thing does not stop, sprite movies may die.

We need more originality, variety, fresh, not overused ideas and concepts as well as different styles in fight scenes, plot twists, and not dully straightforward same thing every flash episode that we have to keep seeing.

i agree i've seen sprite movies that have a dbz like fight scene and see people mention alvin in the comment. i mean yes he's good at it but gets old how when they keep saying his name. they should let the animators do their sprite movies the way they want without being comparing to someone else's work.

hey,man, i just wanna say this, mofunzone put it on their site though you probably denied them, and, i dont care what you say about alvin, hes not continuing SMBZ,so i dont care.

yeah!! show ashei what he deserves and show his friends about him crying after you whoop his ass!!! =D

im just neutral... i like ur flashes and i like alvin's but you just can't compare them so for all the bloody geeks around here, just let it be!

Jesus was black indeed and 9/11 was set up ;)

One last thing, Suppose i made a flash movie, (although i don't have flash yet) it had regular sounds and DBZ sounds, would you consider that a very bad move? please reply if you have time

No i didn't know that, and i also don't care about that stupid one piece show anyway, oh and can you believe alvin-earthworm has some shitty videos of imaginary friends on youtube?

Also very last thing, hmmmm, ok suppose my movie was just mario and sonic fighting, movie had DBZ sounds, would you consider that a bad movie or what.

Just asking

I see your opinion and respect it, but only half agree.
"...Alvin-earthworm is not the leading man on sprite movies. So to constantly compare every fucking sprite movie to that of SMBZ is a damn shame. This is one of the reason why sprite movies are declining, not because of him making flash, its because stupid people who constantly cant stay off his dick long enough to compare it with any other sprite movie every made." True that it's wrong to say Alvin is the best (or worse for that matter) and it's entirely wrong to compare to SMBZ, but putting the blame on him for the decline of sprite movies is unjust.
"...NOT EVERY SPRITE MOVIE HAS TO BE LIKE SMBZ IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE GOOD."
Agree in it's entirety.
"DBZ sprite fights are a dying breed that need to be taken out back and shot. Note: I said DBZ sprite fights. Theres a difference between faced paced action and blatant DBZ imitations. Leave DBZ fights to DBZ Characters. Create your own."
I don't belive that DBZ sprite fights are dying. It's still fairly popular. It's all about the viewers perspective. But I do agree that it would be nice to try other things. But the "fast-paced" action have a very good semblance to DBZ style fights. The difference would depend on how the author puts it. And as far as I know, Sonic games have been influenced heavily by DBZ, in it's characters and the Super forms.
"Oh, and im pretty sure this is going to blow up in my face, but i don't think his animation skill is that great. Sure he can create super fast paced action, but how hard is it to set the fps to a high amount and NOT tween. Like i said, its been done before."
True it's been done before, but Alvin adds his own great story with some great characters. Animation is only an addition to the story. Storyline and characters are more important. He pretty much put it all together in a brilliant way, which is why he gained such popularity. Of course, the fanboys went over the line, no doubt.
So to conclude, Alvin is pretty much innocent of what you've accussed him. He is doing this for an audience that may not be yours. For others like myself, he does a very good job. For the fanboys, they plain annoyed the hell out of everyone. And yes, Alvin shouldn't be considered the best animator out there. There are better. But it would all come down to opinions.
P.S- I understand that you aren't very interested in sprites anymore and plan to shift to drawing your animations, but will you finish Final Fantasy Sonic at any point, or do you plan to drop the project altogether?

Yeah, I suppose your right.

I wonder where i can get flash at...

I have to agree with you.

He has been using DBZ moves without the actual characters like you mentioned before. Why doesn't he just come up with his own moves for the series then.
Also, how can Sprite movies be dead if there is still people who are making them and enjoying them?

In the end, I think you are right with what you said and you back it up well.

I just read this column and a few of the comments and believe it or not, even I agree with you.
Back when I had first joined Newgrounds a few years ago, I was a big fan of sprite animations. Namely ROTMK, SQFP and even your early FFSX flashes.
I hadn't been using Flash for long at the time and I thought it would be a fun thing to do as a hobby. Not as a serious profession. Something to work on during my free time in between a full time job.
Surely enough, I started work on SMBZ episode 1 which was not only my first sprite flash but a culmination of other things I liked. Mario, Sonic and DBZ.
After releasing it onto the portal, I was expecting an average score at best. To my surprise, I got 4.10 and a Daily Feature.
Needless to say this motivated me to work more on the series since I thought many others shared my same interests, but over the years, the fanbase has become a little too enthusiastic.
Now, I can't log on to my Newgrounds, MSN or Deviantart without being greeted by a fan asking when the next episode is out or "lul H0w d1d u g3t s0 gUd 4t 5Preite5???!!!11one"
Not only that, I am even getting sick of the number of spin offs and copycats that are flooding the portal. Nintegaball GT. Mario Ball Z. Shadowball Z to name a few.
The fans have now turned a harmless hobby into a full blown commitment. It also saddens me how they don't understand that I have other more important commitments away from the internet that take a much higher priority.
I severed myself from the internet and quit working with flash for over a year so I could escape from the nausiating fanboys constantly pestering me and hopefully re-ignite my interest in spriting again. I later come back to see that nothing has changed in my absence.
Many of you ask why I don't just quit. Well, I would, but I have grown attached to the series since I am hoping to see it through to the end, Much like you who wishes to finish your FFSX series.
I never would have foreseen the popularity of SMBZ and it was entirely unintentional. One thing for sure, it makes me sick to my gut to watch hopeless clones of my series and my so called fans comparing other sprite animations to mine. It's no wonder I have such a legion of haters when I have my fanboys spreading shit in my name.

hii

hi.

so wehn smbz ep 8 com out? Lol, but seriously, I really don't think Alvin is to blame, he didn't even know SMBZ was gonna be popular, but the fact is that to many people look at his fight and say "Omg like I'm gonna make one of dese!!!" Which is partly why sprites are dieing in popularity, Lack of originality. It's okay to be inspired by a series but many people rip off to much story line and give it there own little twist.

I have to agree People Do Compare Smbz with Other Animations a little too much...
but still there isn't a need to blame alvin for this.... Some people can't help it and if the wan to make Falure, Smbz related stuff let them Its there problem iff it don't turn out good.... any by the way I think your series Is a lot beter than alvins
Well Good luck with Your series.

I'm an animator myself and I just started animating since March, but the 1st animation I did wasn't bad. It's not as animated and such as everyone's flashes here on NG because I use pivot beta 3 which anyone can download for free. So I make the best out of pivot and I learned some things to make certain parts of the animation look like it was made in flash. I upload my series on youtube because I WAS going to upload my series here too, but I decided not to because I KNOW a lot of people will start comparing it to SMBZ even though the story and characters all different. It gets so fucking annoying hearing his fans saying this and that about non-smbz related animations. Even though I have no haters and people love my series so far but if I start uploading my series here, people will start pissing me off and start comparing and will start saying it's a ripoff out of smbz.
My series is called "Mario & Luigi: Plan X" and it is currently on episode 4 but I still haven't decided what my fighting style should be. I want to either make it as dbz styled or rpg styled. I made fights of both but I wasn't sure which to follow....
Although there are many strubborn fans of smbz, I still think they should re-think about the plot since it IS based on dbz's plot. I see a lot of comments around youtube telling people to check out smbz because it's better and more action packed but I comment them right back telling those people to check your animations out because I think your like 10 times better then alvin. I really want to show people around youtube that alvin IS NO GOD! >_<

i think you are just as good a animator as alvin-earthworm and ff sonic x is just as good as super mario bors z and anyone that ff sonic sucks compared to smbz is an a hole

Black Devil X, Stop hating on Alvin. You will 'NEVER equal the guy's skills in sprite animation if any of your previous films are an indication.

I am personally a sprite animator myself too, and I see your point.

I have used MS Paint, Jasc Animation Shop 3 and Movie Maker to do my sprite movies. So now people will shout in my face "ZOMFG! IT SUCKS1111" .
Actually, no. You just need more skillz and experience than you would need on "easier programs". (And no, please don't suggest Flash to me)

Even though my sprite series has been on YouTube(now coming to Newgrounds as well) for about 1 ½ years. It still doesn't have much feedback, but unfortunately those SMBZ fanboys have gotten their handy work on my sprite series too, and I mean by feedback.

Sure, Alvin-Earthworm's SMBZ sprite series originally inspired me to make a sprite series, but that doesn't it'll be a rip-off or a clone or something.
It was pretty laughable when some people commented on the first Episode saying "this is a copy of smbz" or "this copies smbz, but that's alright". When I asked those people how it copies SMBZ, they never anwsered.
Also, on my latest Episode 5 someone dared to say the series is a ripoff of SMBZ. Yeah, I might've overused DBZ effects on that Episode, but that's it.

So I think I should be lucky for having not so much fans or SMBZ fanboys crapping on my series all the time? I don't know.

I do like SMBZ. =)

And I appreciate the effort that good sprite animators put in their sprite animations, because no effort/motivation = Animation sucks. I mean, it always gets reflected from the animation. Good sprite movies always take time, and wait is always worth it.

Nah! I'm not mad at you for dissing Alvin Earthworm, I'm mad at you for dissing the furries!

Just what our fandom needs, more hate!

The sad part is that it won't stop. Cause when Smbz is over, something that becomes very popualar takes it place and the whole thing starts all over again. As for the haters, it also won't stop since the socalled fans make simalair things, then they get that thing in their face and hate the original series they copied and probably the creator too. Definetly not to piss you of or anything but when ep7 coming along? ( again, not to piss you of) Pls respond, even with one word that I atleast know that this is being read.

ninendoruler432

Please please PLEASE don't judge me, but I'm making a SMBZ-esque mini-series for my comic. =\ Luckily Mario's just going to pwn a koopa, so it'll probably be done fast.

OH crap, you done screwed up now, now please tell me how the heck Alvin is killing sprite movies? People have been over-using sprites BEFORE SMBZ!!!! And not everyone compares every Sonic flash to SMBZ!!!! OK!!! AND SO WHAT IF THEY DO! JUST IGNORE IT!! As a matter of fact, it sounds to me like your jealous that Alvin has so many people on his dick. And as far as originality, SMBZ is very original, that's why he gets so much praise, you need to give credit where it's do. The story is original and the animation is almost flawless, just because he uses DBZ styled fights doesn't make it any less original. Your a hypocrite because you said "leave dbz fights to dbz characters." , you use Sonic Characters to make your Final Fantasy story? Why not leave Sonic Characters to SEGA all together? So your doing the same thing! You are just ranting pointlessly. Bottom line, your just jealous of Alvin and his success with his series. OH, and you mentioned you cared about the story more than the action! WEll the story and aciton are both great! You aren't complaining about Nazo Unleashed, depsite the fact that Chakra-X copied dbz fighting style AND dbz story, Perfect Nazo?(Perfect Cell) Absorb the negative energy of the chaos emeralds?(Omega Shenron) Sound familar!! And Alvin can put his talent wherever the heck he wants it too! Who are you to tell him what he should do with his talent? Obviously he's using it well considering he has a massive fan-base! He can draw as many furries as he wants to also! I used to think you were pretty cool until I saw this post, you need to seriously check yourself. What has Alvin did to you for you to be so judgemental of his work!! Your putting undeserved pressure on him. Your gonna have to face the fact that SMBZ IS GREAT AND IF U CANT COMPETE WITH IT, THEN STFU, but don't start a rant about it trying to discredit it because your jealous. On a final note, by you posting this LONG RANT about Alvin, means THAT YOU ARE ONE OF THE PEOPLE ON HIS DICK!!!! RIIIIIGGHHGTTT?????? Yeah I know I am.YEAH U JUST GOT OWNED!!! AND I DARE YOU TO REPLY WITH SOME BS SO I CANT CRUSH YOU AGAIN!!!

P.S. You said Alvin should have told the fans that you don't have to have a dbz styled fight with Sonic and Mario in order for your flash to be good? Why the hell does he have to do that? Like they're too stupid to think for themselves? Regarldess of whether he told them or not, they still would have done it!!! And Some of them do it as a way of admiring smbz and showing respect for it! Something that you seem to lack!